Comments on: Why do you think people have a hard time losing weight? http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html One Mom's Journey from Fat to Skinny to Healthy. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:26:32 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: therapist in Pasadena CA http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-37809 therapist in Pasadena CA Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:32:22 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-37809 Hi, Roni—thank you for your thoughtful blog on weight loss. I especially appreciate that you are digging below the surface to the thoughts/feelings that undermine your efforts to be lean and fit. You have put your finger on one of the primary clinical issues that interferes with weight loss-- perfectionism. When people are perfectionists, they are likely to have "all or nothing" thinking-- i.e. “if I make one mistake, all my ‘good’ is wiped out and my attempts to do better are in vein.” This kind of reductionistic thinking is extremely common, and is the backbone of self-destructive behavior. (On an extreme level, perfectionism can lead to self hate, which can also fuel depression.) If you can't see your genuine efforts in "grey" terms, which includes the good and the bad, then you will be quick to beat yourself up, and quick to sabotage your earnest efforts to do well. Why are people so perfectionistic , so “all or nothing” in their thinking? Evolutionary psychologists have identified three personality traits that are genetically passed on-- perfectionism is one of those traits. That's the nature piece. (On the bright side, being “perfect” helped the species to survive—perfectionism means learning from your mistakes and avoiding danger.) There is also a nurture component to perfectionism-- perfectionists are usually trained by their parents to think in less than forgiving terms. (Think "tiger mom" article in WSJ.) When you're raised in that environment, your brain is hard-wired at an early age to discount the earnest, yet flawed attempts at doing things well. These parents think in black and white. There is no acknowledgement of grey or good enough—it has to be perfect, to get the praise of critical parents. There’s another component that leads to over-eating. People who are perfectionistic can often end up feeling “empty”, which fuels the compulsion to over-eat. The emptiness comes from multiple factors: Perfectionism can lead to lowered self-esteem, self-hate, depression, and isolation from others. (You feel especially “empty” when you’re critical of yourself—it’s like living with a nasty “mom” in your head who’s always telling you you’re not good enough. This diminishes self-esteem, and leads to more feelings of emptiness. It’s also hard to feel close to others when you’re self-critical—you may not feel good enough to engage, or perhaps, you’re critical of your loved ones too, and they’re keeping their emotional distance, causing you to hate on yourself even more.) Eating can be one of the few pleasures within your control if you’re feeling empty or emotionally depleted. People who over-eat often feel as though food is one of their only real “friends”—food nurtures them on their own terms, when human beings fail them. So, naturally, going on a diet that is full of boring, non-nurturing foods can add to the emotional emptiness, and the compulsion to “cheat” on the diet. It is possible to retrain yourself to be more loving and more forgiving of your flawed self. You probably try to do this for your children, but so many moms have a hard time having that generous standard for themselves. As a <a href="//www.leannewatt.com”" rel="nofollow">clinical psychologist in Pasadena CA</a>, I work with patients every day, helping them to develop new neuropathways in their brains-- or new reflexive responses that are kind, and reasonable, rather than harsh and self-defeating. Not everyone needs a psychologist to help them develop this kinder thinking, but for those who are deeply entrenched in the critical, perfectionistic way of relating to themselves, it is good to be exposed to someone who will give you new messaging that can eventually be internalized. When you “cheat” on your diet, it’s good to have someone who understands and appreciates your empty feelings and your need to self-medicate with delicious food, rather than shaming you or criticizing you for not having enough “will power.” The emotional battle is a real one, and those who want to “win” the battle have to learn to be gentle with themselves, and appreciative of the complex struggle. Hi, Roni—thank you for your thoughtful blog on weight loss. I especially appreciate that you are digging below the surface to the thoughts/feelings that undermine your efforts to be lean and fit. You have put your finger on one of the primary clinical issues that interferes with weight loss– perfectionism. When people are perfectionists, they are likely to have “all or nothing” thinking– i.e. “if I make one mistake, all my ‘good’ is wiped out and my attempts to do better are in vein.” This kind of reductionistic thinking is extremely common, and is the backbone of self-destructive behavior. (On an extreme level, perfectionism can lead to self hate, which can also fuel depression.) If you can’t see your genuine efforts in “grey” terms, which includes the good and the bad, then you will be quick to beat yourself up, and quick to sabotage your earnest efforts to do well.
Why are people so perfectionistic , so “all or nothing” in their thinking? Evolutionary psychologists have identified three personality traits that are genetically passed on– perfectionism is one of those traits. That’s the nature piece. (On the bright side, being “perfect” helped the species to survive—perfectionism means learning from your mistakes and avoiding danger.) There is also a nurture component to perfectionism– perfectionists are usually trained by their parents to think in less than forgiving terms. (Think “tiger mom” article in WSJ.) When you’re raised in that environment, your brain is hard-wired at an early age to discount the earnest, yet flawed attempts at doing things well. These parents think in black and white. There is no acknowledgement of grey or good enough—it has to be perfect, to get the praise of critical parents.
There’s another component that leads to over-eating. People who are perfectionistic can often end up feeling “empty”, which fuels the compulsion to over-eat. The emptiness comes from multiple factors: Perfectionism can lead to lowered self-esteem, self-hate, depression, and isolation from others. (You feel especially “empty” when you’re critical of yourself—it’s like living with a nasty “mom” in your head who’s always telling you you’re not good enough. This diminishes self-esteem, and leads to more feelings of emptiness. It’s also hard to feel close to others when you’re self-critical—you may not feel good enough to engage, or perhaps, you’re critical of your loved ones too, and they’re keeping their emotional distance, causing you to hate on yourself even more.)
Eating can be one of the few pleasures within your control if you’re feeling empty or emotionally depleted. People who over-eat often feel as though food is one of their only real “friends”—food nurtures them on their own terms, when human beings fail them. So, naturally, going on a diet that is full of boring, non-nurturing foods can add to the emotional emptiness, and the compulsion to “cheat” on the diet.
It is possible to retrain yourself to be more loving and more forgiving of your flawed self. You probably try to do this for your children, but so many moms have a hard time having that generous standard for themselves. As a clinical psychologist in Pasadena CA, I work with patients every day, helping them to develop new neuropathways in their brains– or new reflexive responses that are kind, and reasonable, rather than harsh and self-defeating. Not everyone needs a psychologist to help them develop this kinder thinking, but for those who are deeply entrenched in the critical, perfectionistic way of relating to themselves, it is good to be exposed to someone who will give you new messaging that can eventually be internalized. When you “cheat” on your diet, it’s good to have someone who understands and appreciates your empty feelings and your need to self-medicate with delicious food, rather than shaming you or criticizing you for not having enough “will power.” The emotional battle is a real one, and those who want to “win” the battle have to learn to be gentle with themselves, and appreciative of the complex struggle.

]]> By: Christopher http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-32957 Christopher Sun, 22 Aug 2010 12:59:18 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-32957 Thank you for taking the time to explore this. I appreciate your honesty. Thank you for taking the time to explore this. I appreciate your honesty.

]]> By: Jenny http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-23668 Jenny Tue, 27 Oct 2009 10:57:40 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-23668 (Please keep in mind I have no educational background in this topic and am merely iterating my personal experiences.) The problem with people who desire to lose weight is that they think they can achieve weight loss by eating a healthy, stable diet. The problem with that is, by exercising and keeping up a healthy diet, you will *maintain* your current weight. You have to *cut back* in order to lose weight. I currently weigh about 129 pounds, and I remember being 143 and feeling helpless. I wasn't a pig, and I didn't have particularly unhealthy eating habits. I tried time after time to lose weight, and always found the second day the hardest. The first day was easy: the feeling of dissatisfaction with an undesired image would usually propel me through the first 24 hours, but the moment I allowed my guard to drop on the second day, all was lost. When I finally maintained a healthy diet and exercise routine, I lost a couple pounds and then flatlined. I couldn't lose anymore. I was eating three meals a day, regular snacks, and was exercising three times a week. What was wrong with me? The problem was, I was taking in a certain amount of calories and getting rid of the same amount. I was right back to where I started. Therefore, to lose weight, you *do* have to give up parts of a diet that are considered acceptable when you simply want to maintain your weight and not decrease it. Those snacks, however healthy or multigrain they might seem- lose them. They're extra calories that your body really does not need! You might feel the slight tinge of hunger, but it's nothing your body can't easily cope with until the next meal. Cut back on your meal sizes. We all know at what point our hunger is satisfied. Don't go over that limit! So many people who try to lose weight think that as long as the food they eat is healthy, they can eat however much of it that they want. Not true! Healthier foods may benefit you more than nutrient lacking foods, but the buildup of calories is still the same, and any that are not used by the end of the day will add to your weight. By adding a self-suited exercise regimen, you will find the pounds dropping. It worked for me, and I've never tried one fad diet. Ever. Once you lose the weight you desire, you can work back slowly to a bigger calorie diet. This does not mean you can indulge in your old eating habits once more. However, your objective goal is no longer to lose weight, but to maintain your current weight. This means you simply have to burn off all of the calories you intake - not more than what you intake. Now, those little multigrain snacks -if you so desire- are okay. Losing weight, I have to say, is about determination. It's not easy, and I think we try to comfort each other by sharing stories of lament and idealizing together that since it is so hard, not working, and perhaps some of us don't have the willpower, than there must be an easier way. There is not. No fad diet is going to cure your weight loss (in the long run). No pill is going to help. It's hard work, but if you have the determination - and yes, the willpower- to follow it, you will see results. (Please keep in mind I have no educational background in this topic and am merely iterating my personal experiences.)

The problem with people who desire to lose weight is that they think they can achieve weight loss by eating a healthy, stable diet. The problem with that is, by exercising and keeping up a healthy diet, you will *maintain* your current weight. You have to *cut back* in order to lose weight. I currently weigh about 129 pounds, and I remember being 143 and feeling helpless. I wasn’t a pig, and I didn’t have particularly unhealthy eating habits. I tried time after time to lose weight, and always found the second day the hardest. The first day was easy: the feeling of dissatisfaction with an undesired image would usually propel me through the first 24 hours, but the moment I allowed my guard to drop on the second day, all was lost. When I finally maintained a healthy diet and exercise routine, I lost a couple pounds and then flatlined. I couldn’t lose anymore. I was eating three meals a day, regular snacks, and was exercising three times a week. What was wrong with me?
The problem was, I was taking in a certain amount of calories and getting rid of the same amount. I was right back to where I started. Therefore, to lose weight, you *do* have to give up parts of a diet that are considered acceptable when you simply want to maintain your weight and not decrease it. Those snacks, however healthy or multigrain they might seem- lose them. They’re extra calories that your body really does not need! You might feel the slight tinge of hunger, but it’s nothing your body can’t easily cope with until the next meal. Cut back on your meal sizes. We all know at what point our hunger is satisfied. Don’t go over that limit! So many people who try to lose weight think that as long as the food they eat is healthy, they can eat however much of it that they want. Not true! Healthier foods may benefit you more than nutrient lacking foods, but the buildup of calories is still the same, and any that are not used by the end of the day will add to your weight. By adding a self-suited exercise regimen, you will find the pounds dropping. It worked for me, and I’ve never tried one fad diet. Ever.
Once you lose the weight you desire, you can work back slowly to a bigger calorie diet. This does not mean you can indulge in your old eating habits once more. However, your objective goal is no longer to lose weight, but to maintain your current weight. This means you simply have to burn off all of the calories you intake – not more than what you intake. Now, those little multigrain snacks -if you so desire- are okay.
Losing weight, I have to say, is about determination. It’s not easy, and I think we try to comfort each other by sharing stories of lament and idealizing together that since it is so hard, not working, and perhaps some of us don’t have the willpower, than there must be an easier way. There is not. No fad diet is going to cure your weight loss (in the long run). No pill is going to help. It’s hard work, but if you have the determination – and yes, the willpower- to follow it, you will see results.

]]> By: missa http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-22931 missa Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:06:49 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-22931 The honest truth is people believe what they want too, it is eat less exersize more plain an simple it does work it's like saying the sun doesn't shine because you don't believe it does losing weight is simple math, throids or medcication make a difference in how hard it is but losing or gaining is calories that's it. . I have hit areas where i stopped losing and i was not honest about or knowlegable about what i ate. Healthy means noothng if you eat to many calories, it all adds up, coffee,tea, that small peiece of chocolate.. most don't know how many calories they get in a day they try to guess and forget that chip, or whatever then wonder why your not losing. the fact is no one cares if you reach your goal so stop making excuses and read, expirement and see what works for you... The honest truth is people believe what they want too, it is eat less exersize more plain an simple it does work it’s like saying the sun doesn’t shine because you don’t believe it does losing weight is simple math, throids or medcication make a difference in how hard it is but losing or gaining is calories that’s it. . I have hit areas where i stopped losing and i was not honest about or knowlegable about what i ate. Healthy means noothng if you eat to many calories, it all adds up, coffee,tea, that small peiece of chocolate.. most don’t know how many calories they get in a day they try to guess and forget that chip, or whatever then wonder why your not losing. the fact is no one cares if you reach your goal so stop making excuses and read, expirement and see what works for you…

]]> By: bob http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-21166 bob Wed, 12 Aug 2009 20:44:44 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-21166 "Until you can create inside yourself a place of peace and acceptance, no amount of willpower is going to keep that weight off." i think thats absolute crap, emily. many people gain that peace and acceptance when they finally get the weight off. gaining peace and acceptance is what motivates some people. you don't have to accept yourself to change something. sometimes you have to change it first. it might not sound very good, but it is true. u can call it insecurity or whatever, but if it motivates someone enough to lose weight, who cares? “Until you can create inside yourself a place of peace and acceptance, no amount of willpower is going to keep that weight off.”

i think thats absolute crap, emily. many people gain that peace and acceptance when they finally get the weight off. gaining peace and acceptance is what motivates some people. you don’t have to accept yourself to change something. sometimes you have to change it first. it might not sound very good, but it is true. u can call it insecurity or whatever, but if it motivates someone enough to lose weight, who cares?

]]> By: pam http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-16081 pam Fri, 27 Feb 2009 14:59:35 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-16081 One quick response....most of my eating doesn't occur when I am hungry. One quick response….most of my eating doesn’t occur when I am hungry.

]]> By: Charlie Hills http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-16061 Charlie Hills Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:30:38 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-16061 My earlier attempts at explain this can found at my blog: http://www.backtothefridge.com/blog/elephant/ http://www.backtothefridge.com/blog/psych-out/ That is if anyone's still interested in the topic. If you're not, I don't blame you. I'm plum tuckered out now! My earlier attempts at explain this can found at my blog:

http://www.backtothefridge.com/blog/elephant/
http://www.backtothefridge.com/blog/psych-out/

That is if anyone’s still interested in the topic. If you’re not, I don’t blame you. I’m plum tuckered out now!

]]> By: Charlie Hills http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-16060 Charlie Hills Thu, 26 Feb 2009 23:29:13 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-16060 Okay, let me back up a bit and take a different path. (My first path is eventually going to get me to the point where I start talking about the atomic makeup of each human and into physical deterministic models. No one wants me to go there!) So you said, "How do you explain me or anyone else who has successfully lost weight?" I say that you, me, and everyone else who has successfully lost weight has done so because at some point the calories burned exceeded the calories consumed. No one argues that point. (I hope!) Of course, your original question is <i>why is it hard</i>. You correctly point out that we do lots of other hard things: wake up early, raise children, brush our teeth. So I believe what you're asking, in effect, is "why is weight loss so much more difficult than all the other difficult things we seem to deal with just fine?" And my answer to that is because I don't believe that eating can be considered a "choice" the same way brushing our teeth is. Why? Because eating is closely tied to our innate survival instincts and brushing teeth isn't. Getting up early isn't. Making kids eat broccoli isn't. Moving to a new house isn't. Every single decision we make, from the very difficult to the no-brainers, all come down to a near-instantaneous weighing of options, or as I like to call them "vectors." The brain processes dozens, hundreds, probably even thousands of vectors at any given point to come to a single decision. Each vector has a direction, velocity, and weight. Subsequently, not all vectors are equal. Let's take a look how this might work. It's time to brush your teeth. What vectors are there? <i>I'm tired. I'd be okay if I skip a day. I really want to keep my teeth. I know I should do this every day. What if I have to kiss someone?</i> Eventually your brain processes all these vectors and the net sum of the vectors is your choice: you do or do not brush your teeth. Now another scenario. Your body has sent hungry signals. What do you do. Let's look at the vectors: <i>I'm hungry. I like food. Food is close by. I shouldn't eat. I have made a lifestyle change and therefore I will not eat. I could get a glass of water and see if that helps. I have a weigh in tomorrow. I have a blog post next Monday.</i> Eventually your brain processes all these vectors and the net sum of the vectors is your choice: you do or do not eat. So my biology argument (as well as my "hard choice") argument ties in with this fact that eating <i>typically</i> has a much, much heavier, stronger vector than many of those other things. Consequently, it wins out more often, and consequently we have a harder time controlling our eating. Yes, some people are blessed with a very "light vector" food component. Most of us aren't. But I don't think it changes my premise (or theory). And hopefully I'm done. :) One day I'll get this all written up into a single, coherent message. Okay, let me back up a bit and take a different path. (My first path is eventually going to get me to the point where I start talking about the atomic makeup of each human and into physical deterministic models. No one wants me to go there!)

So you said, “How do you explain me or anyone else who has successfully lost weight?”

I say that you, me, and everyone else who has successfully lost weight has done so because at some point the calories burned exceeded the calories consumed. No one argues that point. (I hope!)

Of course, your original question is why is it hard. You correctly point out that we do lots of other hard things: wake up early, raise children, brush our teeth. So I believe what you’re asking, in effect, is “why is weight loss so much more difficult than all the other difficult things we seem to deal with just fine?”

And my answer to that is because I don’t believe that eating can be considered a “choice” the same way brushing our teeth is. Why? Because eating is closely tied to our innate survival instincts and brushing teeth isn’t. Getting up early isn’t. Making kids eat broccoli isn’t. Moving to a new house isn’t. Every single decision we make, from the very difficult to the no-brainers, all come down to a near-instantaneous weighing of options, or as I like to call them “vectors.” The brain processes dozens, hundreds, probably even thousands of vectors at any given point to come to a single decision. Each vector has a direction, velocity, and weight. Subsequently, not all vectors are equal.

Let’s take a look how this might work. It’s time to brush your teeth. What vectors are there? I’m tired. I’d be okay if I skip a day. I really want to keep my teeth. I know I should do this every day. What if I have to kiss someone? Eventually your brain processes all these vectors and the net sum of the vectors is your choice: you do or do not brush your teeth.

Now another scenario. Your body has sent hungry signals. What do you do. Let’s look at the vectors: I’m hungry. I like food. Food is close by. I shouldn’t eat. I have made a lifestyle change and therefore I will not eat. I could get a glass of water and see if that helps. I have a weigh in tomorrow. I have a blog post next Monday. Eventually your brain processes all these vectors and the net sum of the vectors is your choice: you do or do not eat.

So my biology argument (as well as my “hard choice”) argument ties in with this fact that eating typically has a much, much heavier, stronger vector than many of those other things. Consequently, it wins out more often, and consequently we have a harder time controlling our eating. Yes, some people are blessed with a very “light vector” food component. Most of us aren’t. But I don’t think it changes my premise (or theory).

And hopefully I’m done. :)

One day I’ll get this all written up into a single, coherent message.

]]> By: pam http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-16059 pam Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:51:10 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-16059 More food for though and then I will shut up. The on/off switch is something that I will always stuggle with. I can be on plan or knowingly Off plan. BUT....key word.....Awareness! I am aware that I am off plan. And, I have the tools to get back on the bus. When choices get hard and willpower gives in.....I have done this long enough to routinely get back on plan. It feels like home....it is a routine. Just like nursing (ouch by the way), chemistry, my job, my marriage, running. It all takes conscious work, awareness, AND WILLPOWER (Self Discipline) Now, I don't know why I can be watching the same tv show as my hubby and he is blissfully watching the show and I am sitting there next to him thinking about the ice cream in the fridge that has my name on it. I will make the effort to get out of my comfortable chair and walk into the kitchen to partake......hubby wouldn't consider that. He full tired and enjoying the movie and we just ate supper for heaven sake. Why are we different? We just are. Land of plenty??? I feel like we are constantly tempted by food, commercials, friends, and family. We not only have an abundance of food, but it is fast, easy, and filled with bad things for you. Not to mention that it is fairly cheap. I refer to my great grandparents. Gram never bought a bag of premade cookies. Or, a frozen meal in a bag etc...... Everything was homemade. That ate 3 meals and they breaked for coffe about 3:00. EVERY DAY! They drank cream, used butter, and ate chicken WITH THE SKIN ON! They never went to the gym or made a conscious effort to walk, run, etc....They worked it off. Hmmmmmm where am I going with this. It just seems to me that with all these convienciences that we all have to be so much more aware of what we put in our bodies, including drinks, food, water, exercise, etc .... This of course is my observation with my own self and does not represent anyone else on this site. ha ha ha ha More food for though and then I will shut up.
The on/off switch is something that I will always stuggle with. I can be on plan or knowingly Off plan. BUT….key word…..Awareness! I am aware that I am off plan. And, I have the tools to get back on the bus. When choices get hard and willpower gives in…..I have done this long enough to routinely get back on plan. It feels like home….it is a routine. Just like nursing (ouch by the way), chemistry, my job, my marriage, running. It all takes conscious work, awareness, AND WILLPOWER (Self Discipline)

Now, I don’t know why I can be watching the same tv show as my hubby and he is blissfully watching the show and I am sitting there next to him thinking about the ice cream in the fridge that has my name on it. I will make the effort to get out of my comfortable chair and walk into the kitchen to partake……hubby wouldn’t consider that. He full tired and enjoying the movie and we just ate supper for heaven sake.
Why are we different? We just are.

Land of plenty??? I feel like we are constantly tempted by food, commercials, friends, and family. We not only have an abundance of food, but it is fast, easy, and filled with bad things for you. Not to mention that it is fairly cheap. I refer to my great grandparents. Gram never bought a bag of premade cookies. Or, a frozen meal in a bag etc……
Everything was homemade. That ate 3 meals and they breaked for coffe about 3:00. EVERY DAY! They drank cream, used butter, and ate chicken WITH THE SKIN ON! They never went to the gym or made a conscious effort to walk, run, etc….They worked it off.

Hmmmmmm where am I going with this. It just seems to me that with all these convienciences that we all have to be so much more aware of what we put in our bodies, including drinks, food, water, exercise, etc ….

This of course is my observation with my own self and does not represent anyone else on this site. ha ha ha ha

]]> By: roni http://ronisweigh.com/2009/02/why-do-you-think-people-have-a-hard-time-losing-weight.html/comment-page-2#comment-16057 roni Thu, 26 Feb 2009 21:21:01 +0000 http://ronisweigh.com/?p=2872#comment-16057 "The very fact that the choice is hard at all lends all the weight I need to the biological argument. :)" How? Getting up after 5 hours of sleep to go to work is hard..... Parenting is hard.... Nursing a child is hard.... Algebra is hard.... Remember to brush my teeth before bed is hard.... buying a new house is hard... moving is hard.... getting your toddler to eat broccoli is hard.... We, as human being still do these things. We do things daily that are hard. How does that lend to your argument?. I'm not doubting it's hardER for some. But you seem believe it's impossible. I disagree. So really playing devils advocate .... How do you explain me or anyone else who has successfully lost weight? “The very fact that the choice is hard at all lends all the weight I need to the biological argument. :)”

How? Getting up after 5 hours of sleep to go to work is hard….. Parenting is hard…. Nursing a child is hard…. Algebra is hard…. Remember to brush my teeth before bed is hard…. buying a new house is hard… moving is hard…. getting your toddler to eat broccoli is hard….

We, as human being still do these things. We do things daily that are hard. How does that lend to your argument?.

I’m not doubting it’s hardER for some. But you seem believe it’s impossible. I disagree.

So really playing devils advocate ….

How do you explain me or anyone else who has successfully lost weight?

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